Thankyou for sharing grammy..ive just been reading I been reading another link this morning that was talking about Medtronic's (the company who manufactured the stimulator that was used in this trial) shares increasing..no surprise there!
The article goes on to talk about other aspects of the study...and further studies
At present, another 8 patients have been set for neurostimulator implantation this year for a new study, although it has not yet been confirmed whether they will be provided the Medtronic implant.
Post by kilg0retr0ut on Apr 14, 2014 10:31:44 GMT -8
Not to be Debbie Downer, but check the success rates of the former model. They have had a lot of complaints about the leads wandering. There is a chance of more injury to the spinal cord. Just saying. Someones got to be negative now that Bobs toast.
Not to be Debbie Downer, but check the success rates of the former model. They have had a lot of complaints about the leads wandering. There is a chance of more injury to the spinal cord. Just saying. Someones got to be negative now that Bobs toast.
Thanks kilg0retr0ut lol...to be honest..there must be some risks associated with the procedure..maybe grammy will shed some further light on your point
Post by offroaderswife on Apr 14, 2014 10:53:18 GMT -8
I do not see this being an option that would benefit me after 20 years of muscle deterioration and atrophy. I hope they get something worked out for the newly injured. I've been hearing all of these exciting and wonderful developments for 20 years but they always flop or the other risks are too high. I don't see it happening in my lifetime but I'm glad they are making headway on something. Getting it approved through insurance will be a huge challenge until there is a lot of hard data for years to come. I don't know anyone that will be able to pay that kind of money on their own so trials and experimentatal opportunities will be the best bet for anyone looking to test it out for the long term.
I do not see this being an option that would benefit me after 20 years of muscle deterioration and atrophy. I hope they get something worked out for the newly injured. I've been hearing all of these exciting and wonderful developments for 20 years but they always flop or the other risks are too high. I don't see it happening in my lifetime but I'm glad they are making headway on something. Getting it approved through insurance will be a huge challenge until there is a lot of hard data for years to come. I don't know anyone that will be able to pay that kind of money on their own so trials and experimentatal opportunities will be the best bet for anyone looking to test it out for the long term.
I can understand where you are coming from offroaderswife ..you must have seen many new and promising treatments for Spinal Cord Injury come and go. I did wonder if longer term SCI sufferers will be able to benefit from this stimulator, especially with atrophy being a factor to consider. Although...thats not to say you and others should not have opportunity. I wonder if only new SCI people have been used in the trials?
Finances, indeed will be a factor, im sure of this..stem cell treatment comes with a high cost..so again, many will be excluded from having a choice.
I do not see this being an option that would benefit me after 20 years of muscle deterioration and atrophy. I hope they get something worked out for the newly injured. I've been hearing all of these exciting and wonderful developments for 20 years but they always flop or the other risks are too high. I don't see it happening in my lifetime but I'm glad they are making headway on something. Getting it approved through insurance will be a huge challenge until there is a lot of hard data for years to come. I don't know anyone that will be able to pay that kind of money on their own so trials and experimentatal opportunities will be the best bet for anyone looking to test it out for the long term.
I can understand where you are coming from offroaderswife ..you must have seen many new and promising treatments for Spinal Cord Injury come and go. I did wonder if longer term SCI sufferers will be able to benefit from this stimulator, especially with atrophy being a factor to consider. Although...thats not to say you and others should not have opportunity. I wonder if only new SCI people have been used in the trials?
Finances, indeed will be a factor, im sure of this..stem cell treatment comes with a high cost..so again, many will be excluded from having a choice.
Post by offroaderswife on Apr 14, 2014 12:04:03 GMT -8
I haven't read too much into this topic but what I did read have people 2 years or less with SCI. I would be interested to see what results they get for 5 and 10 year SCI.
Not to be Debbie Downer, but check the success rates of the former model. They have had a lot of complaints about the leads wandering. There is a chance of more injury to the spinal cord. Just saying. Someones got to be negative now that Bobs toast.
Thanks kilg0retr0ut lol...to be honest..there must be some risks associated with the procedure..maybe grammy will shed some further light on your point
Can't say I miss seeing Bob's sour postings, but I would only want a highly trained surgeon to implant a device utilizing the latest technology. Device manufacturers offer devices that need surgical implantation and require acquired skill. Spinal cord stimulation is a therapy that usually requires the patient to have stimulation perception. Complications reduce with implanter experience.
Neuromodulation. 2014 Feb 11. doi: 10.1111/ner.12151. [Epub ahead of print]
Prevention of Percutaneous Spinal Cord Stimulation Electrode Migration: A 15-Year Experience.
OBJECTIVES:
Percutaneous spinal cord stimulation electrodes have a propensity to migrate longitudinally, which is a costly complication that often compromises therapeutic effect. After implementing simple changes to our percutaneous electrode anchoring technique, we no longer encounter this migration. The current retrospective study updates previously reported results.
MATERIALS AND METHODS:
We retrospectively examined data in a consecutive series of patients in whom we had secured a new percutaneous electrode by injecting < 0.1 cm3 of adhesive into the silicone elastomer lead anchor. From 1998 through 2006, we used whichever anchor was supplied with each lead until we observed one case of migration through a short anchor; thereafter, we used a long, tapered anchor exclusively. From 2007 through 2013, we further modified our technique by adding a fascial incision to accommodate the tip of the anchor and by increasing the strength of our suture material.
RESULTS:
In the first series of 291 patients, followed through July 2007 (mean 4.75 years, range 1.1-9.0 years), 4 (1.37%) experienced electrode migration requiring surgical revision. Only one lead had moved with respect to its anchor; the other three anchors remained securely bonded to their leads. No migration (0.00%) occurred in the second series of 142 patients, followed through 2013 (mean follow-up 2.86 years, range 0.10-5.45 years).
CONCLUSION:
Improvements to our simple, inexpensive technique apparently have eliminated the most common complication of spinal cord stimulation.
I haven't read too much into this topic but what I did read have people 2 years or less with SCI. I would be interested to see what results they get for 5 and 10 year SCI.
The 4 patients reported on so far ranged from 2.2 years to 4.2 years post injury. It will indeed be interesting to watch the human studies to see just how far post injury they can go before there is no longer a benefit seen. Lots more to be discovered.