Post by peacewillcome on May 17, 2014 19:10:34 GMT -8
On a routine trip to the doc she informed me i had lots of internal and external hemorrhoids, i couldnt feel anything. She wanted to give me cortisone suppositories but another health condition prevents me from using cortisone. They are so bad they are blocking effective evacuation, over the counter stuff doesnt seem to be working, i cant feel when i have fecal matter in my lower bowel once i do use a suppository or digi stim it rushes out so quickly it tears the anus which is adding to the problem, this is not an easy area of the body to check and the situation seems to be getting out of control. am worried about infection and open skin and not being able to feel it any ideas? my primary doc is at a loss my diet is good, my stool is formed but not hard and regular. thanks
OTC suppositories aren't helping me either, and may even be irritating fragile skin more. My PCP suggested a few simple things to try, and I think they are helping:
At home, keep two spray bottles handy, one with pretty strong saline and one with witch hazel (astringent). After cleansing normally, spray with saline. Pat dry. Then spray with witch hazel and let air dry. For speed, I use a hair dryer on cool, oy vey... Yeah, just what I need--more time dedicated to B&B!
Apply barrier ointment that contains zinc oxide, preferably 40%, but not petrolatum or mineral oil. Petroleum products lock in bacteria. Zinc oxide promotes skin recovery and inhibits some bacteria. Definitely use ointment without fragrance for injured skin. At minimum, use before bed, and after BP. For other times, I lubricate with castor oil (easy dispensing from pump). Best product I found to meet zinc oxide criteria was: EQUATE MAXIMUM STRENGTH DIAPER RASH RELIEF Active Ingredient : Zinc Oxide (40%) Inactive Ingredients ; Carthamus tinctorius (safflower seed oil), cod liver oil, fragrance [did not cause me problem, and I am so hypersensitive], isopropyl palmitate, lanolin, tocopheryl acetate [form of vitamin E], petrolatum [low on list], talc
Do twice daily full BP. But also do digi-stim when urinating, because often fecal matter has descended and can leak, contaminating open wounds. I can't feel it either.
Try to go every hour, not more than two hours even when away from home. (I must go every hour to avoid urinary mishaps.) This avoids having diaper or pad with urine next to sensitive skin, just further aggravating hemorrhoids.
Do not sit on cushions which have hole for anal area--this aggravates rather than relieves pressure on hemorrhoids.
Supplement with 30mg zinc daily, which is good for healing of skin.
peacewillcome...and also for you wavewolf...this is just a thought but if the problem is affecting effective evacuation then any straining to evacuate will escalate the problem further. The best way forward is not to put any pressure on the veins outside and internally. I can suggest some more natural options for you but it may be worth considering talking with your doctor about using an oral stool softener so that you can evacuate with ease otherwise the problem will not resolve. I appreciate that this may be a double edged sword especially if evacuating relies on having a firmer stool but if this is the case then you may need to use a mild laxitive also.
So here are some options for you to consider For the external hemorrhoids (original forum source) Apple Cider Vinegar Apple cider vinegar will help sooth and heal hemorrhoids – the panacea of natural remedies. Soak a cotton wool ball and dab it to the anal area.
Witch Hazel – The Oldest Remedy Use witch hazel, Hamamelis virginiana, topically, in the form of a cream, liquid or as a compress. It will help to reduce bleeding and relieve pain, itchiness and swelling. You can buy pads pre-soaked with witch hazel. Or just apply pure witch hazel and use direct to the area using a cotton ball. Aloe vera can be added to cool the area, it has a natural antiseptic also.
Also clean up after a bowel movement using baby wipes as its important this will help prevent infection of your hemorrhoids are bleeding. Sudocrem what is traditionally used for nappy rash is a good option to put on any external bleeding hemorrhoids and it has an antiseptic in its ingredients but the natural options will have also.
To help treat and relieve the internal and external hemorrhoids internally and externally Drinking plenty of water, eating a good amount of fibre and fruit is always a general advice
Butcher's Broom The plant butcher's broom (Ruscus aculeatus), which is also known as knee holly, box holly, and sweet broom, gets its name because it was once used by butchers in Europe to clean their chopping blocks. Butcher's broom has a long history of traditional use for hemorrhoids and varicose veins. It is often used when there is underlying poor circulation in the veins.
Butcher's broom has been shown to cause constriction of the veins by activating alpha-adrenergic receptors on smooth muscle cells of the walls of the veins. There is a lack of evidence on the effectiveness of butcher's broom for hemorrhoids. The limited studies, which include a review of 124 cases of patients with hemorrhoids, found that 75% of reporting physicians rated butcher's broom extract as having good or excellent effectiveness in reducing hemorrhoids. Further research is needed.
Butcher's broom is usually recommended in capsule or tea form. The tea, which has a slightly bitter taste, can be made by steeping one teaspoon of the herb in a cup of hot water for 10 to 15 minutes. A natural sweetener such as stevia can be used to sweeten it. Here is a link which gives advice on this natural remedy and possible interactions so please read but as with all advice please clarify with your doctor before taking: Butchers Broom
Post by peacewillcome on May 18, 2014 2:28:59 GMT -8
Thank you both for your advice.
witch hazel caused blistering which was disastorous my stool is not hard on the bristol scale it seems perfect i have zinc ointment with a few other additives and it helps with comfort but no reduction of the swelling i believe it got started when i was using more manual expression of bowel than suppositories i use baby wipes for cleaning and often have to use a suppository or digi stim to get urine flow. sometimes i can avoid cathing if enough of the bowel moves it can trigger the bladder to empty. is a suppository better than digi stim? can hemarroids lead to other problems other than obvious infection? can these cause bowel fistulas? Thanks again everyone nice to know i am not alone
Thankfully my haemorrhoids are behaving themselves at the moment, but when they misbehave I use a product called Proctosedyl Ointment, I apply it for two or three days and then everything is all good. But I must admit haemorrhoids can be a pain in the bum.
Why do they call it an asteroid when it's outside the hemisphere, but call it a hemorrhoid when it's in your butt?
peacewillcome, since the witch hazel blistered you, maybe the apple cider vinegar would be worth a try? It is also astringent, and inhibits bacterial growth. My PCP was not too worried about infection, even though I have relatively minor but regular bleeding. I don't really get that, and would like to see bleeding stop. I don't feel pain because I don't feel anything there... I asked about fistulas, and she said that would be an unlikely and extreme result. Large and obstructive hemorrhoids can be tied off (not considered a surgery), and then they die and fall off. Ugh, seems I might just feel that!!!! Baby wipes are good for normal cleaning, but the saline seems to be soothing after. The astringent seems to be helping reduce size of hemorrhoids.
This is a common problem for people with SCI and everyone who has the good fortune to age. I don't suffer from the internal ones, but the external one can bleed like a slasher movie. During Sandy we had to be evacuated and I was forced out of my familiar bathroom element. The bleeding was so bad, I scheduled a consult with a colo-rectal surgeon. My opening statement was hers. By the time I saw her things had settled down and bleeding had diminished. She thought it was normal for someone in his 60's, 40 yrs. post SCI.
Here is my two cents worth. If you have a neurogenic bowel, you will have to strain and the hemorrhoid tissue will become thin, will tear and bleed. OTOH, you may have extended cramping and you can't stop. This, too, will cause the tissue to become thin; it will tear and then bleed. What I found is that daily Activia or other probiotic can ease the entire process. The probiotic should be supplemented by the minimal dietary fiber you can tolerate.
This method is only for those with some sensation and have some abdominal muscle to aid in the process. Plan on extended time in the bathroom, but the straining is minimized. The cramping will tell you that you aren't finished yet, so you use what muscles you have to gently force the stool to come out. Once the cramping ends, you are finished. However, when you transfer back in to your w/c, be prepared for the cramping to resume due to the physical stress on the abdomen caused by the transfer. If it does resume, transfer back to the john and finish the job. Usually once is enough, but getting up and down two or three times can occur.
Once the job is done, you will not need to have another bowel movement for two or three days. This will allow time for the tissue to heal and the hemorrhoid should get smaller. You can also apply an OTC ointment or whatever works for you. Check out your seating and positioning with pressure mapping to see where your pressure points are. Extra gel in your cushion may help to protect the hemorrhoid. Perhaps this is TMI for most, but if it prevents an unnecessary surgery, it is worth it.
Thankfully my haemorrhoids are behaving themselves at the moment, but when they misbehave I use a product called Proctosedyl Ointment, I apply it for two or three days and then everything is all good. But I must admit haemorrhoids can be a pain in the bum.
What I found is that daily Activia or other probiotic can ease the entire process. The probiotic should be supplemented by the minimal dietary fiber you can tolerate.
How much do you take?
Once the job is done, you will not need to have another bowel movement for two or three days. This will allow time for the tissue to heal and the hemorrhoid should get smaller. You can also apply an OTC ointment or whatever works for you. Check out your seating and positioning with pressure mapping to see where your pressure points are. Extra gel in your cushion may help to protect the hemorrhoid.
I eat one 4 oz. cup of Activia every day. I'm not sure how much probiotic is in a cup. I have also found that Activia is one of the better tasting yogurts. Black Cherry, Peach, and Blueberry are especially good. Stay away from the Vanilla.
Since you don't think this is TMI, let me add to my original post. The truth of the matter is that anyone with SCI is fixated on bowel movements because they control our lives and determine what we can and cannot do, including working, dating, participating in recreational activities, and everything else that matters in life.
Activia is not for everyone. There are many testimonials on the I'net concerning it. They are not all positive. Many AB's can't tolerate it,so people with SCI won't be any different. If you can tolerate it, I suggest supplementing the A. with some form of fiber. How much fiber you take and how often you take it is a matter of trial and error. I find that 3-4 gms. of fiber per day is all I can tolerate. Some good measurable sources of insoluble fiber are cereal, whole wheat bread or toast, fiber bars, and popcorn.
Since we have reduced motility in our guts, you may find that it takes a while to get the entire BM process started. I use a plain old glycerin suppository. That's all I've used for 40+ years of SCI. Plan on extended toilet time because it takes longer to start and longer to finish. My reasoning is that the Activia and fiber supplement cleans the gut well up in the colon, so it takes a while for things to start moving down. Once thngs start the probiotic doesn't stop working until the colon is empty to it upper reaches.
My opinion: Don't worry about having a daily BM. It's more important to get the job done thoroughly so you don't have to worry about it. The predictability adds so much peace of mind. I have an incomplete injury with neurogenic bowel. I know when I have to go and the sphincter is tight. There is gradual urgency, but rarely the feeling that I have to go NOW! Again, I am only recommending this process if you have some sensation and at least some bowel control. People with complete injuries and/or flaccid sphincters may not be appropriate for this method. Good luck.
I think its real important to get an effective bowel programme in place and try to avoid pushing or straining. Our bowels dont respond as they used to.
With being lower motor neurone i have a flaccid bowel so pushing is pointless, digital stimulation or suppositories will not work for me. The ideal for a flaccid bowel is peristeen as it resolves the issue of pushing and of hemorrhoids.
Im sure the peristeen system is a good option for those who struggle with a reflex bowel too..Even though higher injuries can have effective bowel programmes with stims and supps the time spent on bowel programmes could be drastically reduced using this system.
Even though i have been offered it, i still use just medication..and still struggle a little sometimes so i do go slightly against my own advice.
I take 3 sachets of movacol a day and approx 40mls of senna too, then i need to eat very sensibly and exercise daily so i can be sure to have the best chance of not straining.