Hi Paolo you remind me of another guy in another forum who used to push the cure issue with a very good critical eye. Just curious if you are the same guy.
Hi Paolo you remind me of another guy in another forum who used to push the cure issue with a very good critical eye. Just curious if you are the same guy.
Regards
Delboy
Hi Delboy, yes I am the same of CareCure. It has become a little too wild that place lately and there are some technical problems too. Some people would say I have been a bit too aggressive there at times (which could be true), but I am convinced some agitators are needed there to expose some misleading info that were/are taken for good stuff.
The purpose of the FDA is to give the impression that drugs/treatments are scrutinized and that if approved that means they are safe and they work.
It's basically a club of preferred members actually against any outside source of medical treatment.
That's a very sweeping statement. Is it true in all the cases? Most? Many? Some? A few? Who are the preferred members?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking for more info as i think that over generalisations can be dangerous and lead the less experienced away from the correct answer.
Dennis Tesolat
www.StemCellsandAtomBombs.org ______________
"Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. And so we must straighten our backs and work for our freedom."
Martin Luther King
The purpose of the FDA is to give the impression that drugs/treatments are scrutinized and that if approved that means they are safe and they work.
It's basically a club of preferred members actually against any outside source of medical treatment.
That's a very sweeping statement. Is it true in all the cases? Most? Many? Some? A few? Who are the preferred members?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking for more info as i think that over generalisations can be dangerous and lead the less experienced away from the correct answer.
Dennis,
Mainstream medicine goes to great lengths to maintain it's position in the market place. Have you seen the CNN special, calledSelling a Miracle? It was about a clinic in India being harshly criticized by an American researcher for making claims without any published papers on her treatment. The American researcher by the way is Wise Young and not too long after he appeared on CNN he was accused himself of making premature claims of success with his treatment. In fact that was brought up on the CDRF website by their blogger Sam Maddox.
what's really interesting is the researcher who was on CNN criticizing Geeta Shroff was responsible for the first and only treatment for sci (methylprednisolone)and it is no longer seen as being beneficial. Oh and yes that treatment got approved without publication or peer review because it was hyped in the press.
This same researcher last year issued a press release that people are walking from his treatment, however this time not one USA news source ran with the story.
Grass roots advocacy fertilized by Big Pharma-DICHOTOMY at it's best
That's a very sweeping statement. Is it true in all the cases? Most? Many? Some? A few? Who are the preferred members?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking for more info as i think that over generalisations can be dangerous and lead the less experienced away from the correct answer.
Dennis,
Mainstream medicine goes to great lengths to maintain it's position in the market place. Have you seen the CNN special, calledSelling a Miracle? It was about a clinic in India being harshly criticized by an American researcher for making claims without any published papers on her treatment. The American researcher by the way is Wise Young and not too long after he appeared on CNN he was accused himself of making premature claims of success with his treatment. In fact that was brought up on the CDRF website by their blogger Sam Maddox.
what's really interesting is the researcher who was on CNN criticizing Geeta Shroff was responsible for the first and only treatment for sci (methylprednisolone)and it is no longer seen as being beneficial. Oh and yes that treatment got approved without publication or peer review because it was hyped in the press.
This same researcher last year issued a press release that people are walking from his treatment, however this time not one USA news source ran with the story.
But this is only one example as opposed to the sweeping damnation you cast over the entire FDA. Any suggestions on how to prevent this kind of stuff in the future, or do you think it may be non-preventable and that the few strange exceptions is the price you pay for any kind of law or exception? Is this case the norm? Are you suggesting something to replace the FDA with or some way to reform the FDA? I'm very interested to hear more.
Dennis Tesolat
www.StemCellsandAtomBombs.org ______________
"Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. And so we must straighten our backs and work for our freedom."
Martin Luther King
Do they over prescribe pain medication and depression drugs
Do they over diagnose things like ADD?
How good was the securities and exchange commission? Is the FDA and mainstream medicine any worse?
There was much talk about Bernie Madoff, but he was not the only thing wrong with the financial system, nor is the example I gave about the CNN documentary the only issue facing mainstream medicine.
You can read up on this if you like, Art Caplan a well known bio ethicist has written many articles showing mainstream medicine having some snake oil
I must have grown too old and tired for new world order and fanatical hysteria.
LOL...well ive just read through this thread and realise that i need to spend a good fraction of the day developing a better understanding on the thread topic so I can better comment. I need to form an educated opinion...so here goes people when i do...I shall be back with my input
I must have grown too old and tired for new world order and fanatical hysteria.
Grammy, this isn't carecure so hopefully we can discuss things openly on principals not personalities. If we can do that and stop fighting amongst ourselves maybe we have a chance to change things.
Grass roots advocacy fertilized by Big Pharma-DICHOTOMY at it's best
I must have grown too old and tired for new world order and fanatical hysteria.
Grammy, this isn't carecure so hopefully we can discuss things openly on principals not personalities. If we can do that and stop fighting amongst ourselves maybe we have a chance to change things.
Indeed this is not CareCure and if people have had previous issues with each other in the past then this is the place to resolve them and move forward.
Information is better given for its purpose when done in a civil manner without personalities being a focus. Points can be put over in the correct manner and more people will listen, otherwise the point will sadly be lost.
Present facts and lets discuss in a friendly manner with mutual respect guys
Mainstream medicine goes to great lengths to maintain it's position in the market place. Have you seen the CNN special, calledSelling a Miracle? It was about a clinic in India being harshly criticized by an American researcher for making claims without any published papers on her treatment. The American researcher by the way is Wise Young and not too long after he appeared on CNN he was accused himself of making premature claims of success with his treatment. In fact that was brought up on the CDRF website by their blogger Sam Maddox.
what's really interesting is the researcher who was on CNN criticizing Geeta Shroff was responsible for the first and only treatment for sci (methylprednisolone)and it is no longer seen as being beneficial. Oh and yes that treatment got approved without publication or peer review because it was hyped in the press.
This same researcher last year issued a press release that people are walking from his treatment, however this time not one USA news source ran with the story.
Hey bob, you've got a point! I do remember how they were bashing on Geeta Shroff even though I've heard from a few people that actually did the treatment claiming that they did notice some recovery. The way CNN spoke about it was a bit over the top. I didn't even know that it was because of Wise.
Now that I know how the FDA works and how they allow the consumer to take unsafe drugs, I really don't see what the point of FDA approval is anymore.
I must have grown too old and tired for new world order and fanatical hysteria.
grammy, I understand where you're coming from and people that know me know that I give chance to both sides of a story but from personal experiences and the way I see how things are run with the government, FDA, etc, I'm starting to think that it's mainly politics and don't have much to do with our well being.
Here is a reply I got from the FDA when I questioned Ampyra
We understand that Ampyra has many risks. However, it is important to note that the FDA’s role is to determine whether the benefits of a drug outweigh its possible risks for the United States population as a whole. Only you/ your son and his health care provider can decide if the potential benefits of a drug outweigh its potential risks for him. Consequently, many products that are FDA-approved have associated risks, but remain on the market because of their potential to bring benefit to many patients.
Regarding your concern about the division's comment that the responders in the placebo group would beat the Fampridine group, the division agreed with the sponsor when they argued that though this may be the case, the endpoint analysis is not meant to prove efficacy, but only to prove that some treatment effect is maintained at the final visit for the Fampridine responders.
I hope this information is helpful.
Best regards, Drug Information RL Division of Drug Information Center for Drug Evaluation and Research Food and Drug Administration
For up-to-date drug information, follow the FDA's Division of Drug Information on Twitter at FDA_Drug_Info
This communication is consistent with 21CFR10.85(k) and constitutes an informal communication that represents our best judgment at this time but does not constitute an advisory opinion, does not necessarily represent the formal position of the FDA, and does not bind or otherwise obligate or commit the agency to the views expressed.
The placebo effect is rather strong and many a researcher and licensed partner can present statistics in a shrewd way
We understand that Ampyra has many risks. However, it is important to note that the FDA’s role is to determine whether the benefits of a drug outweigh its possible risks for the United States population as a whole. Only you/ your son and his health care provider can decide if the potential benefits of a drug outweigh its potential risks for him. Consequently, many products that are FDA-approved have associated risks, but remain on the market because of their potential to bring benefit to many patients.
Just out of curiosity, are there alternative (safer, better, etc) treatments that does what Ampyra does but isn't FDA approved?