With the aim of attempting to make sense of the totally illogical aspects of Spinal Cord Injury that so many have to live and deal with. Damage to nerves that occur from compression to spinal nerves causes disruption then to the nerves that supply the bowels and the rectum. This causes the bowel muscles and muscles within the rectum to not perform as they normally would and this incontinence occurs.
Bowel management can be such a huge issue that can take so much time to complete.
Due to this time factor, many individuals carry out their routines every other day but I know several people who prefer to do each day as its more 'normal' to them.
Neurogenic bowels as they are described as when damage occurs from SCI, are classified into two types neurogenic bowel. Upper Motor Neuron (UMN) occurs above L1.
In a UMN or hyperreflexic bowel as it is also known, voluntary control of the external anal sphincter is disrupted; the sphincter remains tight, which promotes constipation and retention of stool, which cannot be ignored; it is associated with episodes of autonomic dysreflexia.
UMN connections between the spinal cord and the colon remain intact, thus reflex coordination and stool propulsion remain intact.
Upper Motor Neurone bowels will need help to activate bowel evacuation by reflex so this can be with the use of suppositories and/or digital stimulation of the rectum. This stimulates the emptying of the bowel.
L1 and below is described as Lower Motor Neurone (LMN) and this causes a 'Flaccid bowel'. My bowels are 'flaccid' and i can remember being advised in the spinal unit that suppositories and digital stimulation will not be effective for me to empty my bowels.
LMN or flaccid bowel is marked by loss of stool movement (peristalsis) and slow stool propulsion. The result is constipation and a higher risk of incontinence due to lack of a functional anal sphincter.
To minimize formation of hemorrhoids, use stool softeners, minimal straining during bowel efforts, and minimal physical trauma during stimulation
For my bowels to be assisted in carrying out their function, I use 4 sachets of Movacol a day and 60 mls of senna...Exercise helps greatly also so this is a must
The issue for many people with a Flaccid bowel is leaking from the rectum, this is very difficult to control so it is advisable to wear pads if this is a problem for you.
Great thread, Lαrα! This is a topic that most people don't even know about, and it is frustrating to explain. I have flaccid bowels as well, but my anal sphincter is almost always shut, so I have to use digi-stim to get it to open. I use saline enemas to get things started and everyday, I take 8.6mg of Senna, 100mg of Colace (ducosate sodium), a probiotic, and 15-22.5ml of Lactulose. Lactulose is a prescription syrup laxative which creates a more acidic environment in the bowels, which promotes peristalsis, which is crucial to bowel health, as mentioned above.
Ladies and guys, this is such an important topic for all of us, no matter the injury level. I believe fear of bowel accidents is the primary reason people with SCI fail to attempt school, employment, relationships, and recreation. Even if we are engaging in these activities, the fear plagues us daily. Most importantly, each individual has to know how his/her body works-so pay attention. Don't try to ease the anxiety by staying home and getting high or getting drunk. This will only exacerbate the problem, physically and emotionally. Your body will give you some clue if you learn to listen to it. Find a schedule and system that works and stick to them until it fails multiple times. There will be accidents, so pre-plan. Fill your backpack with supplies and clean underwear. Have another set of clothes in your car. Know where the accessible bathrooms are. If there are no accessible bathrooms, what's your back-up plan.
Talk to someone that you trust. A problem held in silence becomes bigger and bigger. A friend once told me it's just stuff. Everyone has stuff-that's liberating to a degree. AB's have accidents, too. It's just easier for them to clean up afterwards. Add your own suggestions. They might help someone live a fuller life.
You are so right hobo, bowel issues can potentially disrupt so much of a person's life and the best way to cope and deal with SCI is by finding some normality that resembles the life you had pre SCI.
Body function should not take over our lives and dealing/talking about bowel function is nothing to be ashamed of.
Your comments illustrate why forums like this are so important. When I was injured 44 years ago, there was no internet; there were no sci forums; there weren't potentially thousands of people just like me, willing to share their most private and intimate experiences. Everything was a secret. Now we can all share, and others can learn by our failures and successes. If SCI does one thing, it shows us that men and women are way more similar than they are different. Physiologically, I have more in common with a woman with SCI than with my own brother standing next to me. We all know the obvious anatomical differences, but the way SCI impacts us is determined by level, not gender. None of this applies to what happens above the neck. I'll never figure out the brain of a woman, but I digress.
I have flown hundreds of flights with bathrooms beyond my reach. I have fished in boats hundreds of times, tens of miles offshore, not even having my w/c with me. If I didn't have confidence in what my body was telling me, I wouldn't have had a career, met some wonderful women, or gotten married, and I would have missed out on so much fun. Just keep at it. Take baby steps and try activities and places that are relatively safe. If you have a program that works, maintain confidence in it. AB's have accidents, too. It says so on the internet.
Your comments illustrate why forums like this are so important. When I was injured 44 years ago, there was no internet; there were no sci forums; there weren't potentially thousands of people just like me, willing to share their most private and intimate experiences. Everything was a secret. Now we can all share, and others can learn by our failures and successes. If SCI does one thing, it shows us that men and women are way more similar than they are different. Physiologically, I have more in common with a woman with SCI than with my own brother standing next to me. We all know the obvious anatomical differences, but the way SCI impacts us is determined by level, not gender. None of this applies to what happens above the neck. I'll never figure out the brain of a woman, but I digress.
I have flown hundreds of flights with bathrooms beyond my reach. I have fished in boats hundreds of times, tens of miles offshore, not even having my w/c with me. If I didn't have confidence in what my body was telling me, I wouldn't have had a career, met some wonderful women, or gotten married, and I would have missed out on so much fun. Just keep at it. Take baby steps and try activities and places that are relatively safe. If you have a program that works, maintain confidence in it. AB's have accidents, too. It says so on the internet.
I agree 100% hobo, sharing is the way forward, yes bowels and other aspects of Spinal Cord Injury are sensitive topics but if we can discuss openly, there is more chance of learning and understanding,.
Ladies and guys, this is such an important topic for all of us, no matter the injury level. I believe fear of bowel accidents is the primary reason people with SCI fail to attempt school, employment, relationships, and recreation. Even if we are engaging in these activities, the fear plagues us daily. Most importantly, each individual has to know how his/her body works-so pay attention. Don't try to ease the anxiety by staying home and getting high or getting drunk. This will only exacerbate the problem, physically and emotionally. Your body will give you some clue if you learn to listen to it. Find a schedule and system that works and stick to them until it fails multiple times. There will be accidents, so pre-plan. Fill your backpack with supplies and clean underwear. Have another set of clothes in your car. Know where the accessible bathrooms are. If there are no accessible bathrooms, what's your back-up plan.
Talk to someone that you trust. A problem held in silence becomes bigger and bigger. A friend once told me it's just stuff. Everyone has stuff-that's liberating to a degree. AB's have accidents, too. It's just easier for them to clean up afterwards. Add your own suggestions. They might help someone live a fuller life.
I've been stressing about this this week. the incompleteness of my injury means that I'm pretty much self-bowel, except the muscles are so weak that when it starts to come I'm pretty much going to have an accident unless I can sit down and get to a toilet right away. Stresses me out when I go into public, particularly with crutches which don't offer an immediate place to sit. Still I prefer that to doing a bowel program every day.
I had been dealing with constipation big time, apparently another side effect of SCI. Nothing worked, colace, metamucil, lots of water... but my friend who's an herbalist made me a mixture that works like a miracle. So things have been good for the past couple months. Except this past week I haven't pooped in like 5 days, and I'm stressed because I don't want to go out in public and have an accident. They taught me the digital stimulation thing when I was in the hospital, which usually works but hasn't been working this week. Not sure what to do. At what point do I seek medical help?
I don't intend to present myself as an expert on everything SCI. I'm just old and a survivor. Your colon is an environment. You have to determine what will keep that environment healthy given the nature of your injury. Some combination of diet, fiber, probiotics, lots of water, colace is what I would suggest. Trial and error is the way to start. Of course you should consult a physician, but unless he/she is expert in SCI, they'll probably prescribe something that creates more harm than good. The other suggestion is to consider when you ambulate. Any form of exercise is going to stimulate your colon. I'm not ambulatory, but I have learned that I cannot swim until at least 12 hours after doing a bowel routine. I have good sensation, but getting from a pool to the bathroom is a race that is hard to win. BTW, daily bowel movements are not practical or even possible for most people with SCI. If the colon is well-emptied, a program of 2-3 days may be more advisable than trying to force a bowel movement every day. It's all about the environment.
capybara, I sympathise with your current issue, one thing that gets me down is pooping issues! hobo has offered real good advice.
I do find that as we continue along our lives with Spinal Cord Injury we need to consider the occasional adjustments now and then and bring our body and its function in line again so it works to a normal as possible degree.
Five days of no pooping isnt ideal, I would suggest that it is a good time to re assess this bowels.
What has been effective at one time, may not always continue to be. Our bodies will change over time naturally and our exercise, eating habits etc may also change so we need to bring the balance back.
With neurogenic bowels that may consist of needing appropriate help, in regards to laxitives, softeners or manual assistance.
It sounds like some advice may be a good option now, at least from a bowel nurse or specialist in SCI. Some laxitives work better than others with SCI affected bowels so advice will be good for this.
capybara, 5 days seems awfully long, have you had any luck yet? If not, I suggest you seek medical help (emergency) as soon as possible! How much water do you drink each day? Do you take any kinds of stool softners?
Great advice there hobo! When I was in rehab they started my bowel program as an every other day thing but about a year later, I made it an everyday thing. On the non bowel routine days I'd be paranoid about having an accident and would eat very little and I didn't like it at all. Going everyday was always my natural routine so after starting on the everyday program, I've been feeling a lot better. I do have the occasional days when I don't empty at all and that'd leave me paranoid all day but thankfully it happens much less than before. However, it is a big inconvenience having to do this everyday. My morning routine which include emptying the bowel & bladder, having a shower, getting dressed and into my chair takes about 3 hours in total. I really do miss the days when I can get that all done within 30 minutes but oh well!
Lαrα, thanks for bringing up this topic again and reminding us of the types of physical issues we are facing. We cannot afford to be reticent in discussing B&B problems, because we really can help each other. I received no instruction in my rehab for managing B&B, and wound up injuring myself because of lack of knowledge. Because my SCI was from a disease process, this was overlooked. I learned how to urinate from my roommate who had MS, and how to defecate from a man in Germany who posted his "tricks" in an online forum! Funny, but he did more to help with his precise description of what worked for him than any doctor.
hobo, your advice as an experienced SCI is priceless! Yes, managing B&B can be so discouraging that we limit our lives unnecessarily. I have really struggled to achieve consistency in my BP because of the roller coaster nature of my disease symptoms. Your advice is excellent. Being SCI we cannot leave things to chance, and a lot of spontaneity is lost. But self-discipline and becoming educated will usually pay off in managing B&B more effectively.
wavewolf, I just don't know what they were thinking by not educating you on how to manage your bowel & bladder. Thankfully we have the Internet and lots of great resources like these forums but not everyone will know how to go online and help themselves! This is definitely not the first time I've heard about hospitals/rehabs not educating their patients about their injuries. Something really needs to change because that's not good at all!
For all you guys that are confused, frustrated, or angry because of what you were taught or weren't taught in rehab, keep in mind that each SCI is so individualized. They can give us guidelines, but there is only one true expert and that's you. Compounding the problem is that return can occur up to two years after onset, and them more changes occur with aging. We are always trying to hit a moving target. Read my previous post regarding trial and error and maintaining a healthy colon environment.
Here's a biggie; some may disagree. After you have been independent for five years or so, push to get a colonoscopy. We do so much damage by digital stim and all the other tricks we use to stay regular, a colonoscopy should not be delayed until age 50, like the AB population. If you are having unresolved bowel problems, I wouldn't wait. I would get one ASAP. If they find something, they will be able to do something about it before it gets too serious. If they don't, you should have 5 years peace of mind. Prep can be discussed in another thread.
For all you guys that are confused, frustrated, or angry because of what you were taught or weren't taught in rehab, keep in mind that each SCI is so individualized. They can give us guidelines, but there is only one true expert and that's you. Compounding the problem is that return can occur up to two years after onset, and them more changes occur with aging. We are always trying to hit a moving target. Read my previous post regarding trial and error and maintaining a healthy colon environment.
Here's a biggie; some may disagree. After you have been independent for five years or so, push to get a colonoscopy. We do so much damage by digital stim and all the other tricks we use to stay regular, a colonoscopy should not be delayed until age 50, like the AB population. If you are having unresolved bowel problems, I wouldn't wait. I would get one ASAP. If they find something, they will be able to do something about it before it gets too serious. If they don't, you should have 5 years peace of mind. Prep can be discussed in another thread.
Very true it is hard to hit a moving target, but giving no instruction on B&B to a new SCI is just foolish. DJ, for me, I think it was because they did not think of me as SCI even though I had become paralyzed, just "sick" with multisystemic disease. They were not prepared to give this kind of instruction. I did speak to them about the need when I recognized what not knowing had cost me, and even offered some online info resources or to be available to talk to new folks about this critical issue. Of course, being uncredentialed other than living the nightmare, I was not taken up on the offer!
Totally agree about colonoscopy. We can develop fissures, polyps, and other stuff which we may not feel, so being examined is important.