Post by softballdad on Feb 20, 2017 17:37:29 GMT -8
I have never been worried about drug side effects before but I am a little concerned right now. If I ever came down with a UTI there was always one drug I could count on to help me get rid of it, and that is Cipro. Especially the bad ones when you're shivering, sweating, pee oozes out of you like toothpaste and looks like melted carmel. A 500mg tab twice a day for a 10 day treatment my pee is clear usually within 72 hours. I took it a few months ago to treat a UTI and then with my doc's ok I took a smaller dose for the last few months as a preventative. One of the side effects I had was I wouldn't poop on my own I had to dig it out of me. I lived with it because I hadn't had any accidents which is a bonus and my pee was staying clear. Then a week or so ago I started getting pains in my upper arms and shoulders. I was aware Cipro could cause joint pain but I figured it didn't affect me that way since I never experienced it before on those 10-14 day treatments. I was taking a 250mg every other day as a UTI preventative but I have never experienced this type of pain in my arms/shoulders before. It seems when I'm using my biceps things are ok but when I need to use my triceps I wince in pain. I can also hear popping when I move my shoulders around. I also have redness in my underarms. I stopped taking it 4-5 days ago and switched to amoxicilin. I am really hoping this will subside as the cirpo leaves my system. I have never had to deal with this type of pain before. I am a lttle freaked because I've read online some of Cipro's side effects can be permanent. Has anyone had any long term effects from using this drug?
I have found that using true real essential oils, oregano and lemon knock mine out at the first whiff of off smelling urine. Lemon in your water works great also. Not all essential oils can be taken internally. If you want to pm me for more info. I have used oils for the past 5 years, almost 3 in the chair. With no illnesses, flu, cold. Only the occasional off urine, when I have cathed with out being aware of how dirty my hands were at work. Just do not use the lemons at restaurants they are filthy. Throw a few cleaned lemons into a blender with some water, puree it and pour in to ice cube trays. That way you can just grab one ice cube and add water. Ciprofloxacin can be pretty harsh on your body. While in the hospital I lived with uti's until my doctor switched to I believe Vantin since the normal chain of antibiotics was not working. Since being home I have great luck with the oils.
I had taken Cipro many times before then in 2015 my kidneys decided they had bren weakened enough by it and it gave me nephritis. i was terribly ill for 4 months, could do almost nothing, and while I recovered to feel as before my kidney function is now down to 65% on one side and 35% on the other.
Softballdad you may be suffering a tendon problem. Tendon ruptures are common even with young people taking Cirpo, which is why the CDC has posted severe warnings about it. you should be VERY CAREFUL not to stress those triceps as they could simply rupture anytime for months. The guideline I saw stated the danger passes after about 4 months, so mark it on your calendar. Take this very seriously lest you flirt with permanent damage.
yup, no more Cipro for us. Older folks are more vulnerable, and we keep getting older, but many young people also have suffered what you are going through. I know I would not be happy to lose a tricep and have to move to an electric chair.
I had taken Cipro many times before then in 2015 my kidneys decided they had bren weakened enough by it and it gave me nephritis. i was terribly ill for 4 months, could do almost nothing, and while I recovered to feel as before my kidney function is now down to 65% on one side and 35% on the other.
Softballdad you may be suffering a tendon problem. Tendon ruptures are common even with young people taking Cirpo, which is why the CDC has posted severe warnings about it. you should be VERY CAREFUL not to stress those triceps as they could simply rupture anytime for months. The guideline I saw stated the danger passes after about 4 months, so mark it on your calendar. Take this very seriously lest you flirt with permanent damage.
yup, no more Cipro for us. Older folks are more vulnerable, and we keep getting older, but many young people also have suffered what you are going through. I know I would not be happy to lose a tricep and have to move to an electric chair.
Tetra how long were you on it? I took a 10 day course and then was every other day 250mg for 2-3 months and then the pain came on all of the sudden. Today the pain is gone from my right shoulder and arm thank god. My left one I still have pain but I think it is subsiding. I'm still peeing good. My doc said any drug is out of your system and any tolerance you may have built up to it is gone within 90 days. Scary stuff.
I had a partial tendon rupture 10 weeks after a 21 day course of IV Cipro for an MDR UTI. The drug may be out of your system but the effects of it on your tendons hang around for a while. Which sucks. Luckily for me, the rupture healed pretty quickly and cleanly with no lasting decrease in function, but I am wicked scared of Cipro and it's entire family now. Best wishes for this being nothing more than a painful but functionally insignificant tweak!
I know. I'm just a total warmonger against medicinal drugs. www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-7748/ciprofloxacin-oral/details Ciprofloxacin COMMON BRAND NAME(S): Cipro GENERIC NAME(S): CIPROFLOXACIN Quinolone antibiotics (including ciprofloxacin) may cause serious and possibly permanent tendon damage (such as tendonitis, tendon rupture), nerve problems in the arms and legs (peripheral neuropathy), and nervous system problems. Get medical help right away if you have any of the following symptoms: pain/numbness/burning/tingling/weakness in your arms/hands/legs/feet, changes in how you sense touch/pain/temperature/vibration/body position, severe/lasting headache, vision changes, shaking (tremors), seizures, mental/mood changes (such as agitation, anxiety, confusion, hallucinations, depression, rare thoughts of suicide). Tendon damage may occur during or after treatment with this medication. Stop exercising, rest, and get medical help right away if you develop joint/muscle/tendon pain or swelling. Your risk for tendon problems is greater if you are over 60 years of age, if you are taking corticosteroids (such as prednisone), or if you have a kidney, heart, or lung transplant. This medication may make a certain muscle condition (myasthenia gravis) worse. Tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening muscle weakness (such as drooping eyelids, unsteady walk) or trouble breathing. Discuss the risks and benefits with your doctor before using this medication.
I had terrible pain in my shoulders after taking Cipro. I couldn't wheel without excruciating pain. My doctor thought it was over-use of my shoulders and equated it to post-polio syndrome. We removed all the carpeting from our home to help. We did not make the connection until I took Levaquin and began to have the same pain. My pain lasted for months. It seemed to pass, but as I get older (73) I have more pain in my shoulders in bed. I hope yours goes away, too.
"Vintage likes this" wasn't exactly what I meant to say, Crepe. Somehow the finer nuances do get lost with the "like" button. What I meant was, "Wow! That was a dramatically bad side-effect from the Cipro."
Another consideration with regard to Cipro and most drugs are the additives or excipients. I used to take a drug for my spasms but then a new pharmaceutical company bought out the other company that produced it. They started putting in lactose into the mixture. I would get very sick to the stomach whenever I took it and couldn't figure it out. I finally read online that additives and coatings are sometimes the culprits. Sure enough it was the lactose.
I have found that using true real essential oils, oregano and lemon knock mine out at the first whiff of off smelling urine. Lemon in your water works great also. Not all essential oils can be taken internally. If you want to pm me for more info. I have used oils for the past 5 years, almost 3 in the chair. With no illnesses, flu, cold. Only the occasional off urine, when I have cathed with out being aware of how dirty my hands were at work. Just do not use the lemons at restaurants they are filthy. Throw a few cleaned lemons into a blender with some water, puree it and pour in to ice cube trays. That way you can just grab one ice cube and add water. Ciprofloxacin can be pretty harsh on your body. While in the hospital I lived with uti's until my doctor switched to I believe Vantin since the normal chain of antibiotics was not working. Since being home I have great luck with the oils.
Lavender, thanks for the info. What brand of essential oil do you use? Or do you make your own? I know you're a gardener, so I wondered if you made any oils from your plants. I've tried, but they don't ever seem quite right. Good for bug spray, etc. but not concentrated enough.
I agree that the right oil of oregano can be a pretty potent enemy to UTIs, I also just recently tried Lara's remedy of drinking baking soda (bicarb) for a uti, and it did work. The pain and stinging disappeared in a couple of hours. Caution though, it can also clean out the bowels!
softballdad, sorry you have this worry. I hope you're feeling better. Cipro can be a nasty little med, but after your vivid description of those dreadful uti symptoms, no wonder it's so popular! Mine were not that bad, or I'd have been swallowing the bottle.
I’m really concerned that you have been taking ciprofloxacin for so long and so often. Do you ever ask your doctor what bug you are cultivating in your urine and what it is sensitive to? When the pathology lab test your urine for microbes, they also test how sensitive the microbes are to various antibiotics. These antibiotics are usually listed on their report, which goes back to your doctor. If you are infected with E. coli, for example (which is one of the most common urine infection bugs), it could be sensitive to a number of oral antibiotics, such as Augmentin, nitrofurantoin, trimethoprim and Cipro. Cipro is generally used for pseudomonas, a less common but very horrible urine bug, and anthrax. Do you remember the letters containing white powder that were sent many years ago in America, the white powder being anthrax? People were put on 750 mg of ciprofloxacin twice a day. Many reported terrible side effects. I’ve had Cipro quite a few times in the past but I stopped using it because of the side-effects. I also stopped using it as a first line of defence because I’m now very worried about antimicrobial resistance. I always asked my doctor what bug I have and what it is sensitive to. I generally have at least three antibiotic that I and my doctor can choose. I discuss it with him. Usually I switch between antibiotics, use trimethoprim and the next time nitrofurantoin and so on, so that the bugs have less chance of becoming resistant to one particular antibiotic. Ciprofloxacin used to keep me awake at night, make my heart race and cause my blood pressure to drop like a stone. It is a horrible drug and one that I now use as a last resort. Thank God the bugs I cultivate in my urine are still sensitive to oral antibiotics. A month or so ago I was chatting to my urologist and he said he was really concerned about the amount of patients he was seeing who are resistance to all oral antibiotics. They have to be put on intravenous antibiotics. Some of them are even showing resistance to gentamicin. “I get worried, Michael, when patients are showing resistance to gentamicin,” he told me. We all have a duty to take antibiotics as a last resort. Pharmaceutical companies do not invest as much money into antibiotics as they should. They say there isn’t enough profit in it. Microbial resistance is fast becoming the most serious health issue in developed countries. Everybody should be aware of this emerging problem. It is particularly irksome for people who have catheters or others whose bladders do not fully empty because of their spinal injury. Speak to your doctor. Ask him what bugs you have and what it is sensitive to and then switch from antibiotic to antibiotic. Never take one antibiotic continuously. Try to avoid going on maintenance doses of antibiotics. You will certainly build a resistance to it and that antibiotic will become useless to you. You will also develop resistant bugs which you may pass on to other patients when you go to hospital, thus propagating resistant bacteria. I cannot stress how serious an issue of this is. All the best to you and take care.
I make a tea of marshmallow root, hydrangea root, and gravel root for uti's. Then I spike it with some black cherry juice. These herbs gently dissolve debris in the urinary tract. The marshmallow root is soothing because of it's mucilaginous properties. When the debris is gone, it's much easier to eliminate the bacteria. Lavender's lemon oil and Jaylock's oregano oil are also wonderful and effective. And these natural products don't create microbial resistance. We don't use natural remedies because we are 'unscientific', but rather because these products give good results without the toxicity of most prescription antibiotics.
I make a tea of marshmallow root, hydrangea root, and gravel root for uti's. Then I spike it with some black cherry juice. These herbs gently dissolve debris in the urinary tract. The marshmallow root is soothing because of it's mucilaginous properties. When the debris is gone, it's much easier to eliminate the bacteria. Lavender's lemon oil and Jaylock's oregano oil are also wonderful and effective. And these natural products don't create microbial resistance. We don't use natural remedies because we are 'unscientific', but rather because these products give good results without the toxicity of most prescription antibiotics.
I won;'t take anything that will give me the runs either. I am not putting my life on hold for a UTI. Do any of these oils have side effects?
Post by kilg0retr0ut on Feb 23, 2017 13:48:28 GMT -8
Young Living makes good oils. Each has positive and adverse effects. Ex. You wouldn't put peppermint on a pressure sore, but I don't think the oils cure anything, maybe aid. They sure smell good I had a UTI that pugged my foley, they put me on cipro. I was sent to a spinal cord center. When tested there it was found the cipro had no effect on the UTI I had. He said he didn't like using antibiotics till he see's symptoms like fever, etc. My body did fight it off.