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BOTOX INJECTIONS FOR NEUROPATHIC PAIN May 9, 2017 8:07:05 GMT -8

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HI EVERYONE,
I AM A T12 COMPLETE PARAPLEGIC WHO HAS BEEN IN A WHEELCHAIR FOR TEN YEARS, AND HAS SUFFERED FROM CHRONIC NEUROPATHIC PAIN FOR EIGHT YEARS. I HAVE BEEN ON GABAPENTIN AND TRIDURAL FOR THOSE YEARS, AND NOW I AM BECOMING TOLERANT TO THEIR EFFECTS. I HAVE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT BOTOX IS BEING INJECTED AT NERVE SIGHTS IN THE DAMAGED AREA, AND THAT IT IS RECEIVING NEUROPATHIC PAIN. I AM WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS HAD THIS TREATMENT, AND IF SO DID IT WORK? I DON'T MEAN BOTOX FOR BACK PAIN THOUGH, SPECIFICALLY NEUROPATHIC PAIN.

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BOTOX INJECTIONS FOR NEUROPATHIC PAIN May 9, 2017 21:08:16 GMT -8

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Post by delboy on May 9, 2017 21:08:16 GMT -8

The only botox injections i have is for bladder retention. it keeps me off the ditro pills. i've never heard of botox injections for neuro pain. As for neuro pain i have a high tolerance to it.
i take pride in not taking any medication. don't know your level of pain or how it effects you but the latter works well for me.

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BOTOX INJECTIONS FOR NEUROPATHIC PAIN May 15, 2017 5:42:13 GMT -8

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May 13, 2017 20:04:32 GMT -8 outlier said:

I kind of want to know what "neuropathic" pain is since all pain is "neuropathic."

Can you be more specific?

True outlier, but SCI for me brought on new types of pain I hadn't felt before my injury. So I understand what nrmarchand is saying.

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BOTOX INJECTIONS FOR NEUROPATHIC PAIN May 15, 2017 9:24:28 GMT -8

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Post by califanna on May 15, 2017 9:24:28 GMT -8

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"Neuropathic pain (neuralgia) is a pain that comes from problems with signals from the nerves. There are various causes. It is different to the common type of pain that is due to an injury, burn, pressure, etc. Traditional painkillers such as paracetamol, anti-inflammatories and codeine usually do not help very much."

My nerve pain feels like burning, twisting, and pulling that is constant all day long. Mine is due to a damaged nerve from a misplaced pedicle screw in my spinal column.

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As for the botox injections to relieve the pain, it is investigational and was talked about in this forum before. www.medscape.com/viewarticle/860783

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BOTOX INJECTIONS FOR NEUROPATHIC PAIN May 20, 2017 17:45:23 GMT -8

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Post by outlier on May 20, 2017 17:45:23 GMT -8

The only thing that causes us to feel pain is nerves.

Neuropathic implies an underlying pathology...so "acute" pain can be ruled out as "neuropathic." Any other condition that causes pain chronically is by definition "neuropathic pain." I should add that there are areas excluded by medicine not to be "neuropathic." Neuropathic pain" can be considered as generating from the nerves themselves. But, all chronic pain becomes "neuropathic." As an example, Fibromyalgia was considered an upper middle class syndrome in women. Research using FMRIs showed that over time, it doesn't matter the cause; it eventually goes to a specific part of the brain. So doing any intervention at this point is, for all intensive purpose, is fruitless. It is commonly referred to as chronic pain syndrome. This is why I am angry at cutting people off from pain meds. You do not want it 1) centralized and 2) you don't want your only option for treatment in the brain. Stop it from being centralized in the first place. Because once you're there -- there is no going back.

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BOTOX INJECTIONS FOR NEUROPATHIC PAIN

Post by nrmarchand on May 9, 2017 8:07:05 GMT -8

Post by tj on May 9, 2017 14:29:55 GMT -8

Post by tetra on May 9, 2017 18:23:32 GMT -8

Post by delboy on May 9, 2017 21:08:16 GMT -8

Post by kilg0retr0ut on May 10, 2017 4:19:21 GMT -8

Post by outlier on May 13, 2017 20:04:32 GMT -8

Post by kilg0retr0ut on May 15, 2017 5:42:13 GMT -8

Post by califanna on May 15, 2017 9:24:28 GMT -8

Post by califanna on May 15, 2017 9:31:28 GMT -8

Post by tj on May 15, 2017 10:24:43 GMT -8

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