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Has anyone tried this? Jul 5, 2018 11:57:24 GMT -8

Post by noodow121 on Jul 5, 2018 11:57:24 GMT -8

Dip an ice block with salt and rub it on the site of injury (until it gets very cold) and then apply hot water. The sudden change in temperature would force the underlying tissue to react to heal the area and absorb scars blocking nerve regeneration. If done appropriately, results (such as pain relief and regaining sensation) should become increasingly apparent with each attempt.

Warning: the salt reaction absorbs heat rapidly so there is a risk of frost-burn if done recklessly.

ADMIN NOTE: Do not try this. The risks outweigh the benefits and the similar effect without the risks can be had with ice and warm water WITHOUT the salt.

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Has anyone tried this? Jul 5, 2018 12:58:20 GMT -8

Post by tarabev on Jul 5, 2018 12:58:20 GMT -8

Ice and salt together is not a good idea..... I used to be a professional sportsman and I'd have a lot of injuries which I'd do the cold and hot treatment for, which does help.

Apparently, theres one of the silly internet challenges going around where idiots are using ice blocks and salt together to see how long they can put up with it for. This is what Wikipedia says "The mixture of ice and salt creates a eutectic frigorific mixture which can get as cold as −18 °C (0 °F),[3][4] much colder than ice alone. This repeatable cooling reaction was used to calibrate the Fahrenheit temperature scale.
People are getting burns from doing it

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Has anyone tried this? Jul 5, 2018 14:57:25 GMT -8

Post by noodow121 on Jul 5, 2018 14:57:25 GMT -8

Jul 5, 2018 12:58:20 GMT -8 tarabev said:

Ice and salt together is not a good idea..... I used to be a professional sportsman and I'd have a lot of injuries which I'd do the cold and hot treatment for, which does help.

Apparently, theres one of the silly internet challenges going around where idiots are using ice blocks and salt together to see how long they can put up with it for. This is what Wikipedia says "The mixture of ice and salt creates a eutectic frigorific mixture which can get as cold as −18 °C (0 °F),[3][4] much colder than ice alone. This repeatable cooling reaction was used to calibrate the Fahrenheit temperature scale.
People are getting burns from doing it

That's exactly what the warning is for. The point is to have a much stronger alternative to the treatment for sport injuries you mentioned; but still stay within the safe-zone (a treatment that's too modest won't be enough for major injuries like SCI). This is obviously not a competition of who can endure the cold.

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Has anyone tried this? Jul 5, 2018 19:05:13 GMT -8

Post by tetra on Jul 5, 2018 19:05:13 GMT -8

No, not going to try. I simply can see no way that increasing circulation will break down scar tissue. It's very easy to damage skin with too much cold. Tarabev, nice post. Noodow121, you joined specifically to create this thread. You offer no information bout yourself in your profile. Hard to take you seriously under those conditions.

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Has anyone tried this? Jul 7, 2018 7:13:43 GMT -8

Post by DJ on Jul 7, 2018 7:13:43 GMT -8

Thanks for bringing this up to my attention vintage. After the “salt and ice challenge” there have been numerous warning issued telling people not to do this because of the risks associated with it.

If any of you want to know more about why this is a terrible idea, read this:

Putting a layer of salt on your skin and then holding an ice cube on it is a good way to create a lot of pain and a permanent scar. The combination burns your skin, not with heat, but with cold, in much the same way excessively cold air can burn exposed skin on a winter's day. The burn is caused by frostbite, and it happens because salt lowers the temperature at which ice melts.

Full article - sciencing.com/ice-salt-burn-skin-6554297.html

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Post by noodow121 on Jul 5, 2018 11:57:24 GMT -8

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Post by tetra on Jul 5, 2018 19:05:13 GMT -8

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