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Scarf srangulation injury May 14, 2015 8:50:22 GMT -8

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Post by kazi on May 14, 2015 8:50:22 GMT -8

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i.m a physio and working with SCI people in Bangladesh. recently i,m doing a research on ''scarf(dopatta) strangulation injury causing SCI''. in Indian subcontinent like Bangladesh this types of injury is not uncommon specially when they traveling through motor bike or auto-rickshaw. if anyone have any experience or information related with this type of injury please fell free to share with me. you can also mail me in shoyeb pt@gmail.com

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Scarf srangulation injury May 14, 2015 18:06:24 GMT -8

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Post by kazi on May 14, 2015 18:06:24 GMT -8

yah Lαrα, exactly that things happen in this injury. south Asian country its a common practice in women to wear averagely 1m long scarf(dopatta/urna) around upper body. if one part of it caught in a moving wheel like rickshaw, food crasher than this terrible injury happen

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Scarf srangulation injury May 14, 2015 23:09:35 GMT -8

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May 14, 2015 18:06:24 GMT -8 kazi said:

yah Lαrα, exactly that things happen in this injury. south Asian country its a common practice in women to wear averagely 1m long scarf(dopatta/urna) around upper body. if one part of it caught in a moving wheel like rickshaw, food crasher than this terrible injury happen

It sounds like there needs to be awareness promoted in the country, this is an injury so easily avoided. Can the government not restrict these scarves being worn whilst using riding. What do you mean by 'food crasher'

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Scarf srangulation injury May 15, 2015 23:52:41 GMT -8

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Post by Lαrα on May 15, 2015 23:52:41 GMT -8

Before you mentioned this kazi,, I wouldn't have even considered SCI resulting from this? Just out of curiosity, what is the main factor causing Spinal Cord Injury in India, do you have any statistics?

I've taken a look around the net and this occurrence seems it is becoming a recognized important health risk and is referred to as 'Long scarf syndrome.

I have found two sources that are of two separate incidents of two teenage girls who died from this cause and each obtained cervical Spinal Cord Injuries.

I would rather not add the websites to the board openly as they each have graphic and upsetting images so I can message you with them.
You may know of them already but you have them anyway then.

Just for other's reading this, one girl was riding a Rickshaw motorcycle and the other was riding in a cart that was pulled by a bull, each had their scarves caught in the wheel.

So so sad

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Scarf srangulation injury May 17, 2015 0:15:25 GMT -8

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Post by kazi on May 17, 2015 0:15:25 GMT -8

i can give you some idea about causes of SCI in Bangladesh, hear main cause is fall from tree and fall while carrying heavy object over head, RTA, dive in shallow attack, bull attack.
before my initiative Scarf strangulation was not consider as a cause, they grossly mention it as RTA, because it strangulation occur mainly during RTA.
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Scarf srangulation injury May 17, 2015 14:43:51 GMT -8

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Post by wavewolf on May 17, 2015 14:43:51 GMT -8

kazi, you are making a real difference among SCI where you are working. RTA (road traffic accident?) is also a major cause of SCI here in USA, but the other causes seem particular to life where you live. Perhaps some sort of device to contain the length of the scarf, rather than try to change a cultural tradition? Even a decorative short pole, that the scarf can be secured around, would work so that there are not loose ends. And it could be quickly and simply undone at end of ride, and pole stored between uses. I'm thinking of a figure-eight type wraparound.

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Scarf srangulation injury May 19, 2015 0:41:05 GMT -8

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Post by kazi on May 19, 2015 0:41:05 GMT -8

Figure 8 may be a good solution. another dangerous think that pulled me to do this study are most of them are bellow 15 year school going children. Beside clothing types of vehicle that lead a chance of scarf strangulation may be another factor. until now i,ve found a particular vehicle rlated with this issue. we called it battery power auto rickshaw. Lαrα, DJ, wavewolf,

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Scarf srangulation injury May 19, 2015 2:09:05 GMT -8

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Post by wavewolf on May 19, 2015 2:09:05 GMT -8

kazi, what I had in mind is a short (10-12in/20.5-30.5cm) dowel that scarf could be wrapped around in a figure 8 very quickly and easily, tucking end in to secure it (like women do with very long hair). Can hang behind or in front of you while riding, not get tangled in anything. Even if scarf is silky material, winding it and tucking end in should secure it. Light cotton scarf (common) would not come apart at all. I tried to find a picture, but couldn't.

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Scarf srangulation injury May 19, 2015 22:02:41 GMT -8

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Post by wavewolf on May 19, 2015 22:02:41 GMT -8

You are most welcome. What I like about this idea is that you are not trying to change the cultural expression, just reducing risk of injury while riding. Unwinding the scarf and stashing the dowel for repeated use is fast, and dowel can be carved and oiled or painted to look nice. My grandmother was born in Bengal area, so I know the type of scarf that is worn. I sometimes worn one when I lived with her as a child (in the USA), feeling elegant and modest, and had very long hair which I braided to my head (woven in) so to not get it caught in my very lively activities! From very young, I loved working with my grandfather and happily climbed ladders and ran electrical wire assisting him in his business. He asked my grandmother to braid my hair for safety. My childhood was quite unusual for USA, but with them was most happy time.

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Scarf srangulation injury

Post by kazi on May 14, 2015 8:50:22 GMT -8

Post by Lαrα on May 14, 2015 10:55:48 GMT -8

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Post by Lαrα on May 14, 2015 23:09:35 GMT -8

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Post by kazi on May 17, 2015 0:15:25 GMT -8

Post by Lαrα on May 17, 2015 3:33:49 GMT -8

Post by wavewolf on May 17, 2015 14:43:51 GMT -8

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Post by Lαrα on May 19, 2015 1:01:40 GMT -8

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