How many of us on here suffer from insomnia and get very little help from our Dr's for it? Here I am setting up outside on my front porch through a severe thunderstorm. No sleep again tonight. The last time that I slept I had been awake for 96 hours, then slept for 3 hours and have now been awake again for 76 hours so far. Constant pain, no pain medication, no relief, no sleep medication. I am in the third stage of arachnoiditis, so if I have read correctly that means no relief. I know that one time when I had a visit to the emergency room they gave me morphine, I wish that came in a six pack. It sure took the edge off and made the pain bearable. I at least felt better about the pain. I go to physical therapy 3 times a week and it doesn't seem to be doing anything. They send a report once a month to my Dr and for all the many months that I have been going there , there has been no improvement only losing more joint movement and also more muscle atrophy. Well anyway this has been my rant on this subject, I will be good to go for awhile again now.
Hi tj. You are such a kind person and an inspiiration to newcomers here that I had no idea of the severity of your insomnia and pain. After getting a few hours of sleep, I turned over in bed about a half hour ago, and my left stump, which has clonus, began kicking and kicking and kicking. I should name that stump "Thumper", after the rabbit in Bambi. It's not just annoying, it's painful. By choice, I don't take any (prescription) medication, not even for these events. But on occassions such as this one, I remember that this was what the drugs were "for". Now that I'm sitting up in bed, the dramatic kicking has stopped, but there is still a spasm in my hip joint. This tells me that as soon as I lie back down the "display" will begin again.
But I hadn't intended just to talk about myself, during this Midsummer Night's Non-dream. What does it mean that you are in "the third stage of arachnoiditis"? So, at that stage, even morphine offers little reprieve? (...and your humor about wishing that the morphine would "come in a six pack" - cute. I hadn't heard that one before.) It's nice that you at least had the thunderstorm to distract you for a few minutes. I'm sorry you've had such severe insomnia. Would pain medication and sleep medication give you a temporary fix of the problem? Have you asked for it and the doctor not given it to you? It's a disgrace how unresponsive the system is to our needs. The delay in getting what we need adds to our stress levels. Anyway, 'rant on' whenever you feel like it, and know that somewhere another SCI forum member is wide awake and suffering, too.
Hello TJ. Like Vintage I had no idea how much you suffered. You never gripe or moan in your posts. How can you stay awake for 96 hours without sleep? It is almost unbelievable. I thought I had insomnia. I find it difficult to sleep but I always get around 3 ½ to 4 hours minimum. Regarding morphine. I would never touch it again. Once bitten twice shy. I started on 10 mg and within six months I was taking 200 mg. It’s so easy for the body to build up a tolerance to the drug. You have to increase the dose every three or four days to get the same effect. If you stay on one particular dose the body gets so used to it has no effect. So easy to become addicted. I have to say, though, it is a brilliant drug. Not only does it take the pain away but it makes you feel $1 million, like a Superman. I know other people who have arachnoiditis. They really do suffer. What about sleeping pills? Are you worried about the hung over feeling they give you? On a more flippant note, I love thunderstorms. The lightning, the rumbles of thunder and torrential rain. I reckon in another life I would have been a storm chaser. Okay we don’t get tornadoes here in the UK, or anywhere near the intense storms that you get in tornado alley, but when it rains hard here it really does come down — huge hailstones thundering on the conservatory roof. You are a top man TJ. Keep your posts coming and let us hear a little bit more of your arachnoiditis condition
Post by kilg0retr0ut on Jun 17, 2017 5:23:50 GMT -8
Damn TJ, that's not enough sleep. My sleep consistency is crappy, but compared to what your dealing with I'm Sleeping Beauty. My friend, you needs some meds. Many here have chronic pain, but unlike you we get some relief, whether by meds, or when we catch some sleep. I wouldn't screw around with the usual crud. If morphine takes the edge off, thats what you should have. IMO I think you should ask your doc about Methadone which may work better than the straight up morph.
I know some folks here take great pride in not needing meds. If they can have some quality of life without them, then I'm happy for them. I myself without meds would be almost useless to my family. So for me the negative aspects of medication are outweighed by the positive.
Something needs to be changed TJ, you shouldn't have to continue like this. Don't make me send the Sandman.
In fairness, I'm back to report that I lay back down after posting and got another three or four hours of sleep. Also, my stump isn't kicking at the moment, and I'm about to get up for that cup of coffee I so much look forward to.
That's a lot to need to rant about, tj, I had no idea you had such challenges. I know that cannabis still has a stigma, but have you tried it or thought about trying it? It's certainly nothing like morphine either in terms of pain relief or (thank goodness) addiction, but it sure can take the edge off and help you sleep. It is legal medicinally and recreationally here in MA, and I use it all the time for pain, spasms, high BP, and insomnia. I don't use any other kind of pain killer, and it keeps my spasticity at minimum. Yes, it does also alter the mind a little, although that's not always a bad thing. You probably already know this but it can be vaporized (so it's easier to inhale) or ingested, not just smoked. It works TJ, and it's "all natural" Just a thought.
That's a lot to need to rant about, tj , I had no idea you had such challenges. I know that cannabis still has a stigma, but have you tried it or thought about trying it? It's certainly nothing like morphine either in terms of pain relief or (thank goodness) addiction, but it sure can take the edge off and help you sleep. It is legal medicinally and recreationally here in MA, and I use it all the time for pain, spasms, high BP, and insomnia. I don't use any other kind of pain killer, and it keeps my spasticity at minimum. Yes, it does also alter the mind a little, although that's not always a bad thing. You probably already know this but it can be vaporized (so it's easier to inhale) or ingested, not just smoked. It works TJ, and it's "all natural" Just a thought.
I guess even after that there is much more going bad physically with me.
Good morningTj. I hope you have had a wink or two since your last post! I agree with Jaylock with regards to medicinal cannabis. I have never smoked recreational "pot" in my life and have no intention of doing so. But my neurologist prescribed the cannabis to me after Inrefused all of the drugs he wanted to put me on. I was excited to find that I didn't have to smoke the cannabis to get the benefits. My options are fruit flavored gummies, cookies, vapor pen, and drops, in addition to the traditonal method of smoking. I am a chicken, so I tried the CBD version of the pen, gummies and drops. My favorite (because I didn't care for the taste of the others) is the CBD oil drops. There is very little to no THC in it. I found them to loosen my very stiff legs and feet when I walk with my crutches. It's not perfect, so I will try using the 1 to 1 oil (1 part THC to 1 part CBD) on my next visit to the pharmacy. There are many options! I have found a great difference with using the cannabis and find it to be a miracle "drug" in a more natural form. I hope this can be an option for you. Good luck to you, and I truly hope things get better for you soon.
Sending hugs your way, TJ. The whole opiod epidemic scare and dismal failure of the medical community to constructively address pain relief is a crime against people with chronic pain. Have you ever visited painonline.org?
Sending hugs your way, TJ. The whole opiod epidemic scare and dismal failure of the medical community to constructively address pain relief is a crime against people with chronic pain. Have you ever visited painonline.org?
Thank you for the hugs tetra, I just visited that site. It just had books about pain and or updates for Dr's of pain meetings around the world. When I searched the site for arachnoiditis it came up with more publications, and it didn't sound as if they were free. I slept 3 hours the day before yesterday. I have been awake every hour since then. And hugs back at you.
tj wow I had no idea you had to deal with this ontop of everything else you're dealing with. I can't even imagine how hard it must be for you but you're doing an amazing job dealing with it. Why is it that you don't have medication to take for sleep/pain related issues? Doctor isn't writing up a prescription? Have you tried natural remedies for both?
tj wow I had no idea you had to deal with this ontop of everything else you're dealing with. I can't even imagine how hard it must be for you but you're doing an amazing job dealing with it. Why is it that you don't have medication to take for sleep/pain related issues? Doctor isn't writing up a prescription? Have you tried natural remedies for both?
My Dr said he is scared to write prescrirptions for pain or sleep because of the government is cracking down on Dr's who prescribe them. So I am left to suffer. I am looking for a Dr who has dealt with adhesive arachnoiditis before. However finding one is much more difficult than I thought it would be.
Sending hugs your way, TJ. The whole opiod epidemic scare and dismal failure of the medical community to constructively address pain relief is a crime against people with chronic pain. Have you ever visited painonline.org?
Thank you for the hugs tetra, I just visited that site. It just had books about pain and or updates for Dr's of pain meetings around the world. When I searched the site for arachnoiditis it came up with more publications, and it didn't sound as if they were free. I slept 3 hours the day before yesterday. I have been awake every hour since then. And hugs back at you.
TJ- Somehow you did not end up on the right website. Start here:
The main emphasis of this site is "Central Pain". Your pain may fall into that category, or it may seem to in part. There is a lot of information that may help you or your doctor understand your situation. If your present doc is so afraid of government regulators that he will not prescribe pain meds even to see if they will work for a patient in severe pain, you have a problem that can be solved, with perseverance. Your doctor has a problem that cannot be solve: he is a timid bastard unwilling to practice good medicine. There may be things to like about hime but your legitimate medical needs are not being met, even though they could be.
I realize that finding a doctor who will help you specifically for pain is not easy and it may sometimes be easier to convince a coward to practice good medicine that to shop around in the present circumstances.
Forgive my questions if you have answered them elsewhere. Do you keep a journal documenting your symptoms each day along with how many hours of sleep, if any , you manage? Such a journal should list the number of times you lay down and try to sleep, and at what hours. A pain journal helps your doctor see 2 things- how careful you are to be responsible for your own health, and the severity of your problem. It is the sort of thing that helps a good doctor justify dispensing medication.
Your doctor has the option of discussing with his professional association what conditions merit heavy duty pain meds. Those medications are still entirely legal BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE NEED THE DESPERATELY. Your own doctor clearly does not understand your condition.
Secondly, did you, at some point, ask your neurologist if s/he would treat pain for you or if he or she knows of a local doctor who would understand your condition and help you find effective treatment?
I'm hoping that the pain clinic that I'm going to will start prescribing pain medication for me, if they won't I will go somewhere else. But the pain clinic has a Dr there that supposedly has dealt with what I have. I'm looking for another PCP, the one that I have now is as timid as a mouse. The neurosurgeon that I saw told me to go back to my PCP because he said that my condition was beyond help. And he was the head of the spinal clinic at the University of Iowa Hospital. Hugs back to you !