Since we all are in recovery in some form here, got a question and interested in all responses. Currently I am post injury 1 year and 11 months and gaining strength fairly rapidly now, I am standing for 2 to 5 minutes in one place many instances during the day up to 10x and walk in my walker a couple times a day for about 30 ft each try. this has been happening for about a week now and I am super sore in many places and muscle twitches happen regularly and substantial twitches at that. how long does this go on? I am in serious muscle soreness and hoping this doesn't last to long? My goal is to be walking again one day, at least some of the time.
Wonderful Sam, keep it up. I remember 40 years ago or so having 2 a day practices in football. We would go home for lunch and be barely able to move for the beginning of the afternoon session. Then later in life it seemed as though the older I was the longer it took to recuperate, what used to take days then now takes weeks. However that being said, I really think you are doing great, keep us updated , I am sure most here would agree that you are doing fantastic.
The twitches that youre having could be in response to the muscle soreness.......I dont suffer much from spasms but Ive found over the years that if I strain a muscle or bruise myself, then I can tend to twitch more. The muscles will heal, doctors will tell you to rest them but I used to be a professional sportsman and I'll tell you that muscles need to be kept working, not to overly strain them but to keep them working. If the muscle soreness is really bad, then taking anti inflammatories could help
Youre doing so well Sam.... I'm a C5/6 quad walker, had my accident 19 years ago (tomorrow is the anniversary)......while youre improving, dont quit...but just be aware that there will come a day when there's no more improvement to be had, you just have to find your limit and work hard to get there...for me....I was so determined to be 100% again that when I reached that plateau, it finally hit home that I was never going to be 'normal' again...that ended up being a very hard time for me.
Hi Sam - you are doing so well. Congratulations on your progress. Steely determination! Peter has always had this problem. Spasticity and tight muscles were and remain his biggest challenge. It has held him back to a large extent as muscle soreness exacerbates the spasticity. It is easier now (nearly 5 years post) but he still has to pace himself. We are guessing that the simple muscle soreness from good exercise creates spasticity and this pushes him backward. So for the first couple of years it was two steps forward and one and a half back. So frustrating. Around the end of the second year the spasticity eased a bit (we think stretching/some more muscle control/healing nerves helped) so at this point he was able to push himself a bit more. Nearly 5 years on he still gets muscle soreness if he pushes it too much (rarely real spasticity) and it is still a very slow journey. I think the trick is to know your body and learn how much you can do without getting a major reaction. But this is just Peter's personal experience and I have heard other people says that Tarabev's strategy of ignoring the soreness and pushing through it worked for them. I am guessing that they may not have had spasticity to deal with though. Good news is that at nearly 5 years out Peter is still improving and he is now getting much more movement in his trunk and torso recently and still getting stronger on his weak right side. Muscle soreness still bothers him if he pushes too hard or when he tries something new. Slow and steady worked for him. Good luck and I hope you find the right road for you.
Hi Sam - you are doing so well. Congratulations on your progress. Steely determination! Peter has always had this problem. Spasticity and tight muscles were and remain his biggest challenge. It has held him back to a large extent as muscle soreness exacerbates the spasticity. It is easier now (nearly 5 years post) but he still has to pace himself. We are guessing that the simple muscle soreness from good exercise creates spasticity and this pushes him backward. So for the first couple of years it was two steps forward and one and a half back. So frustrating. Around the end of the second year the spasticity eased a bit (we think stretching/some more muscle control/healing nerves helped) so at this point he was able to push himself a bit more. Nearly 5 years on he still gets muscle soreness if he pushes it too much (rarely real spasticity) and it is still a very slow journey. I think the trick is to know your body and learn how much you can do without getting a major reaction. But this is just Peter's personal experience and I have heard other people says that Tarabev's strategy of ignoring the soreness and pushing through it worked for them. I am guessing that they may not have had spasticity to deal with though. Good news is that at nearly 5 years out Peter is still improving and he is now getting much more movement in his trunk and torso recently and still getting stronger on his weak right side. Muscle soreness still bothers him if he pushes too hard or when he tries something new. Slow and steady worked for him. Good luck and I hope you find the right road for you.
Moco...I didnt say that Sam should ignore the soreness and push through it...one should never do that...I was saying that I dont think that the doctors are correct in saying that complete rest is the way to go for sore muscles,....gentle exercising of the muscles when sore is what I was suggesting, not to rest them...pushing through the pain and keeping the same rate of exercise wont help heal, but do more damage.
And I used to have more spasticity in the early days while recovering, its why my physio at the time would always stretch my legs before we'd do work on them and to this day, I still have to do stretches
Moco...I didnt say that Sam should ignore the soreness and push through it...one should never do that...I was saying that I dont think that the doctors are correct in saying that complete rest is the way to go for sore muscles,....gentle exercising of the muscles when sore is what I was suggesting, not to rest them...pushing through the pain and keeping the same rate of exercise wont help heal, but do more damage.
Gentle exercise or even passive movement is quite useful for recovery because it pumps more blood through the muscle. Pain is caused by accumulated waste in the muscle, so washing more blood through helps. Capsaicin helps for the same reason, as does a hot bath.
Moco...I didnt say that Sam should ignore the soreness and push through it...one should never do that...I was saying that I dont think that the doctors are correct in saying that complete rest is the way to go for sore muscles,....gentle exercising of the muscles when sore is what I was suggesting, not to rest them...pushing through the pain and keeping the same rate of exercise wont help heal, but do more damage.
And I used to have more spasticity in the early days while recovering, its why my physio at the time would always stretch my legs before we'd do work on them and to this day, I still have to do stretches
Sorry Tarabev - didn't mean to sound like I was disagreeing or contradicting. I phrased it badly.
I agree re the stretching before exercise - like you Peter still needs stretching often (passive and active) and always at the start of a physio session.
We have a daily stretching session after his shower (on the bed as he still can't get onto the floor) and I gently stretch some muscles and also help with positioning his body while he does some active stretching and strengthening exercises. Early days he could do little by himself but now he can manage quite a lot solo.
Sam - there's loads of stretching exercise info online that you can do at home. I can post some links if it would help. Also, do you have access to a motorised bike? Peter uses a Motomed bike which can be used passively (motor moves pedals round) and actively (he moves pedals round). At first he could only do a minute or two and had lots of stiffness after, but he has gradually built it up over a long period to daily sessions of 40/50 mins which are mostly active. This helps loads with both strength and stiffness.
Moco...I didnt say that Sam should ignore the soreness and push through it...one should never do that...I was saying that I dont think that the doctors are correct in saying that complete rest is the way to go for sore muscles,....gentle exercising of the muscles when sore is what I was suggesting, not to rest them...pushing through the pain and keeping the same rate of exercise wont help heal, but do more damage.
And I used to have more spasticity in the early days while recovering, its why my physio at the time would always stretch my legs before we'd do work on them and to this day, I still have to do stretches
Sam - there's loads of stretching exercise info online that you can do at home. I can post some links if it would help. Also, do you have access to a motorised bike? Peter uses a Motomed bike which can be used passively (motor moves pedals round) and actively (he moves pedals round). At first he could only do a minute or two and had lots of stiffness after, but he has gradually built it up over a long period to daily sessions of 40/50 mins which are mostly active. This helps loads with both strength and stiffness.
hi moco, sorry for my tardy reply, ive been working hard the last week and I'm super sore again. my childhood friend is coming to visit and I wanted to be able to use my walker more when they are here. I don't have access to a stationary bike for exercise. ive been using wrist and ankle weights and standing from wheelchair and doing various other exercises to build strength. it is working it is just so much work that I'm getting tired and downhearted because I have very little help from family and it is just getting old this whole recovery thing, especially alone. tell peter I'm on his side only I have a strong right side and a weak left side of body, opposite of peter. sometimes I overwork my right arm and I have to ease up on the exercise. thanks for the encouragement everyone, back to work I go.
Sam - there's loads of stretching exercise info online that you can do at home. I can post some links if it would help. Also, do you have access to a motorised bike? Peter uses a Motomed bike which can be used passively (motor moves pedals round) and actively (he moves pedals round). At first he could only do a minute or two and had lots of stiffness after, but he has gradually built it up over a long period to daily sessions of 40/50 mins which are mostly active. This helps loads with both strength and stiffness.
hi moco, sorry for my tardy reply, ive been working hard the last week and I'm super sore again. my childhood friend is coming to visit and I wanted to be able to use my walker more when they are here. I don't have access to a stationary bike for exercise. ive been using wrist and ankle weights and standing from wheelchair and doing various other exercises to build strength. it is working it is just so much work that I'm getting tired and downhearted because I have very little help from family and it is just getting old this whole recovery thing, especially alone. tell peter I'm on his side only I have a strong right side and a weak left side of body, opposite of peter. sometimes I overwork my right arm and I have to ease up on the exercise. thanks for the encouragement everyone, back to work I go.
Must be tough doing this solo Sam. You are right - it's a log slow, arse achey process and people lose interest after a while - we have the same from family. They politely enquire after Peter then very quickly lose interest and some of them think that as it's taken him this long to get this far, there won't be further progress and we are deluding ourselves that he can improve further. He will. Our 5 year old grandaughter has only known "Grandad" as someone who can't walk much and asked me why it was taking him so much longer to learn how to walk than it took her. Bless.
I have a vested interest in being a cheer leader for Peter's recovery. The more he can do the more we can do together. He does get very down hearted sometimes though, especially when all is going along nicely in the right direction and then something, like a diagnosis of diabetes recently, side swipes him. He is pretty stubborn though and has picked up and is feeling better after cutting out carbs and losing a stone so far. Keep at it - small improvements add up to big ones over time and it sounds like to are already doing really well. Keep sharing your progress on here - you will get all the encouragement you need from people who know just how tough mentally as well as physically recovery is.
Sam, are you able to drive? If so, many senior centers offer "balance classes" They incorporate things done while sitting and things done while holding on to a chair (or not, for those more able. I go to one and it offers a bit of variety to my own routine. There are also classes in chair yoga.
Sam, are you able to drive? If so, many senior centers offer "balance classes" They incorporate things done while sitting and things done while holding on to a chair (or not, for those more able. I go to one and it offers a bit of variety to my own routine. There are also classes in chair yoga.
hi tetra, I am able to drive just don't have auto now since I rolled it 5 times per police report and was totaled in my injury accident. I used the money from insurance on medical needs and expenditures to get set up once released from hospital. plus I'm a few years to young for a senior center also.
Sam, are you able to drive? If so, many senior centers offer "balance classes" They incorporate things done while sitting and things done while holding on to a chair (or not, for those more able. I go to one and it offers a bit of variety to my own routine. There are also classes in chair yoga.
hi tetra, I am able to drive just don't have auto now since I rolled it 5 times per police report and was totaled in my injury accident. I used the money from insurance on medical needs and expenditures to get set up once released from hospital. plus I'm a few years to young for a senior center also.
If you decide at some point to check into this most centers would understand your premature arrival at needing such help and be happy to include you. They are not geared as exclusive clubs, though you will not likely find your next wife there. Or maybe you could! Someone who needs a driver!
Since we all are in recovery in some form here, got a question and interested in all responses. Currently I am post injury 1 year and 11 months and gaining strength fairly rapidly now, I am standing for 2 to 5 minutes in one place many instances during the day up to 10x and walk in my walker a couple times a day for about 30 ft each try. this has been happening for about a week now and I am super sore in many places and muscle twitches happen regularly and substantial twitches at that. how long does this go on? I am in serious muscle soreness and hoping this doesn't last to long? My goal is to be walking again one day, at least some of the time.
That is really great, congrats on the improvement. When there's muscle soreness I was told that means the muscles are rebuilding themselves, so I think it's a good thing? When I get soreness now I give the muscles a break for 1-3 days, once it's gone I do the same workouts again and they're a little bit stronger